Chuck Bettis relocated to NY in 2002 where he befriended turntablist Toshio Kajiwara who was running the one of kind Phonomena event in the basement of Tonic as well as the label under the same name. Very few recordings were made of their duos, mainly live performances, here is segment of both which appeared on the compilation "Space Is No Place Vol. 2" released by Psych-o-path, which is now out of print.